When a tree falls..

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Hi, what's your opinion on this question:
when a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it, does it still make a sound?

sweetness

yes there is still a sound, because sound is like waves, and the sound waves are still created, or something like that, but it definatly makes sound

moveadvice72

I saw a shirt that made fun of that when I was in New York. It went a little something like this:

Realism: Shit happens.
Christianity: Shit happens to you because you're sinful.
Buddhism: What is the sound of shit happening?

etc...

honeyowl4

QUOTE (cadillac64 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:21 AM)

Buddhism: What is the sound of shit happening?

FRAAAAAPPP

(sorry)

bag93beard

is there anyway of knowing for sure? cause I thought that yeah, it makes the vibration still, but it's only a sound when it's interpreted by ears, so without ears it's just a vibration

moveadvice72

Hey, let's debate something else. SOLIPSISM! Ready GO!

honeyowl4

TOO MANY LETTERS>

*gg gggg gggg brain explodes

moveadvice72

QUOTE (Connyfoo @ Jan 17 2006, 08:32 PM)

TOO MANY LETTERS>

*gg gggg gggg brain explodes

OH. When I was taking my practice SAT. (Thank the LORD this didn't happen during the real test) I started imagining everyone's heads exploding, and then the janitor came in and cleaned it up. I burst out laughing, and pissed people off. Very well, I might add...

But seriously, Solipsism is my favorite theory to debate. It really makes your head hurt. Look it up. Actually, here: Solipsism I don't expect you to read it all.

honeyowl4

QUOTE (cadillac64 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:34 AM)

OH. When I was taking my practice SAT. (Thank the LORD this didn't happen during the real test) I started imagining everyone's heads exploding, and then the janitor came in and cleaned it up. I burst out laughing, and pissed people off. Very well, I might add...

And did you do well?

bag93beard

is SAT only in the US? I don't even really know what it is

moveadvice72

I think it's only in the US and I think it's in Canada too. It stands for Scholastic Aptitude Test, and it's annoying.

agentnumone

Nope no SATs here

honeyowl4

QUOTE (cadillac64 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:45 AM)

I think it's only in the US and I think it's in Canada too. It stands for Scholastic Aptitude Test, and it's annoying.

More like Suck Assy Test

moveadvice72

Ok, but seriously folks. solipsism. What think you all?

bag93beard

lol is it hard?? I live in canada but I go to french school so maybe that's why I don't know what it is.. we have this thing called OQRE though and I can't remember what it stands for, but I think it's just a test to check that we're learning what we're supposed to be learning.. something like that

moveadvice72

QUOTE (cadillac64 @ Jan 17 2006, 08:34 PM)

Solipsism

Hehem.

bag93beard

whoaaa I just looked up solipsism on wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solipsism

that's really weird cause I actually thought about that before.. I didn't know there was a term for it :|

honeyowl4

QUOTE (cadillac64 @ Jan 18 2006, 04:48 AM)

Ok, but seriously folks. solipsism. What think you all?

I think it's a bit wonky --- that everyone else's subconscious doesn't exsist --- that all events, persons, thoughts have no meaning until it's applied to yourself?

The only true thing - the only true reality is yourself?

It seems a bit egotistical, although it is interesting to think about.

moveadvice72

Which means that you are god.

bag93beard

are there some people who actually believe in that?

moveadvice72

I don't know. It's just hard to think about, because you start to wonder if you're actually thinking it, or if someone else is making you think it with their subconcious mind.