No, I'm just anti-feminist, however, I don't believe it's right to press my beliefs on other, so politically I guess I'm pretty feminist. But I guess that's why there's a separation of church and state and such.
contradictions....confuzzles.
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miss alway ssort of annoyed me. i don't think its for any good reason, except that the only people who called me "miss" were old people that i didn't particularly want to talk to. =P That being said, rightnow I can't be anything other than "miss," so I'd prefer to be nothing at all. I don't like titles.
If I were married, I think I'd want to be Mrs. Just because it seems right, and if I was married I'd (hopefully) want people to know and stuff. Even though it would make me feel old.
To me, Ms. is what teachers use when they don't want their students to know if they're married or not. Since I'm not becoming a teacher, it also doesn't seem right.
like I said, I don't like titles anyways. at some point, I'll have to choose a title, but right now I'd rather just be called by my name. I guess.
If I were married, I think I'd want to be Mrs. Just because it seems right, and if I was married I'd (hopefully) want people to know and stuff. Even though it would make me feel old.
On my table card at the wedding, fel and my title was Ms. while my 2 younger sisters were Miss... Like they didn't know If I was married or not... and They know me. I guess if your around 20 they just call you Ms. as to signify that your mature... Blah? I think if you get all fussy about your title, its just showing that you care about your age... I mean I didn't really like it much, but what could have I done.
Usage Note: Many of us think of Ms. or Ms as a fairly recent invention of the women's movement, but in fact the term was first suggested as a convenience to writers of business letters by such publications as the Bulletin of the American Business Writing Association (1951) and The Simplified Letter, issued by the National Office Management Association (1952). Ms. is now widely used in both professional and social contexts. As a courtesy title Ms. serves exactly the same function that Mr. does for men, and like Mr. it may be used with a last name alone or with a full name. Furthermore, Ms. is correct regardless of a woman's marital status, thus relegating that information to the realm of private life, where many feel it belongs anyway. Some women prefer Miss or Mrs., however, and courtesy requires that their wishes be respected.
^^Yeah, that's what I thought it was- a more convenient term, so that if you don't know a woman's marital status, you can just use Ms. Or you can keep your marital life (or lack thereof) private if you so wish.
QUOTE (HelloLover86 @ Jul 3 2006, 12:46 AM)
1) Ma'am is short for madame, so now you're being redundant.
2) I'm extremely anti-feminist, so when I hear a woman who prefers to be called Ms. I often think of yelling, "You have ovaries and childbaring hips! BE PROUD AND GO MAKE YOUR HUSBAND SOME DINNER!" But that's just me.
1) I'm not being redundant. Yes, "ma'am" is short for madam (as in the English word), and "madam" basically means the same thing as "madame." However, I'm talking about two separate situations here: people in the US are apt to call me "ma'am," but that's not going to happen in France. They're going to say "madame." Maybe it's a subtle difference, but it's a difference to me.
2) Honestly? That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever fucking heard. I'm not going to lie. Honestly, if I don't want the outside world to know if I'm married or not, that's my prerogative. Why does everything boil down to having ovaries and being married when you're a woman? Why does the outside world have to perceive you as nothing but a baby-popping dinner-maker for you to have any kind of merit in the world? If you want to share that you're married and proud, you can damn well do so, and if you don't, you can do that, too. Honestly, get over it and get in the 21st century. Just because you disagree with bra burning and whatever else was done in the 70's doesn't mean that you should throw the whole feminist movement out the fucking window.
2) Honestly? That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever fucking heard. I'm not going to lie. Honestly, if I don't want the outside world to know if I'm married or not, that's my prerogative. Why does everything boil down to having ovaries and being married when you're a woman? Why does the outside world have to perceive you as nothing but a baby-popping dinner-maker for you to have any kind of merit in the world? If you want to share that you're married and proud, you can damn well do so, and if you don't, you can do that, too. Honestly, Karleigh, get the fuck over it and get in the 21st century. Just because you disagree with bra burning and whatever else was done in the 70's doesn't mean that you should throw the whole fucking feminist movement out the fucking window.
You do know that southern BELLE means a young southern woman, right..?
woohoo, like me!
Pandy, you could just stop trying to please everyone and just call everyone "skank" or "ho." Not sure how that would work out, calling the customers that at work, but dammit man! You're a grown boy, do what you want!
What's weird is that while I'm writing this, Stephen Colbert is talking about panda bears.
Actually, anything ANYTHING is better than that STUPID inhaling type tuting noise a guy makes sometimes when he approves of your appearance. somebody did that to me today. I was not impressed hah.
i guess its my own fault tho, i shoouldnt have worn shorts and heels HAHA
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If I were married, I think I'd want to be Mrs. Just because it seems right, and if I was married I'd (hopefully) want people to know and stuff. Even though it would make me feel old.
To me, Ms. is what teachers use when they don't want their students to know if they're married or not. Since I'm not becoming a teacher, it also doesn't seem right.
like I said, I don't like titles anyways. at some point, I'll have to choose a title, but right now I'd rather just be called by my name. I guess.
so i prefer ms.
hahaha, good eye...
Reading that over, I agree, that makes no sense. Nevermind, I'm just antifeminist.
I think that's something we can all agree on.
Usage Note: Many of us think of Ms. or Ms as a fairly recent invention of the women's movement, but in fact the term was first suggested as a convenience to writers of business letters by such publications as the Bulletin of the American Business Writing Association (1951) and The Simplified Letter, issued by the National Office Management Association (1952). Ms. is now widely used in both professional and social contexts. As a courtesy title Ms. serves exactly the same function that Mr. does for men, and like Mr. it may be used with a last name alone or with a full name. Furthermore, Ms. is correct regardless of a woman's marital status, thus relegating that information to the realm of private life, where many feel it belongs anyway. Some women prefer Miss or Mrs., however, and courtesy requires that their wishes be respected.
^^Yeah, that's what I thought it was- a more convenient term, so that if you don't know a woman's marital status, you can just use Ms. Or you can keep your marital life (or lack thereof) private if you so wish.
2) I'm extremely anti-feminist, so when I hear a woman who prefers to be called Ms. I often think of yelling, "You have ovaries and childbaring hips! BE PROUD AND GO MAKE YOUR HUSBAND SOME DINNER!" But that's just me.
1) I'm not being redundant. Yes, "ma'am" is short for madam (as in the English word), and "madam" basically means the same thing as "madame." However, I'm talking about two separate situations here: people in the US are apt to call me "ma'am," but that's not going to happen in France. They're going to say "madame." Maybe it's a subtle difference, but it's a difference to me.
2) Honestly? That's the fucking stupidest thing I've ever fucking heard. I'm not going to lie. Honestly, if I don't want the outside world to know if I'm married or not, that's my prerogative. Why does everything boil down to having ovaries and being married when you're a woman? Why does the outside world have to perceive you as nothing but a baby-popping dinner-maker for you to have any kind of merit in the world? If you want to share that you're married and proud, you can damn well do so, and if you don't, you can do that, too. Honestly, get over it and get in the 21st century. Just because you disagree with bra burning and whatever else was done in the 70's doesn't mean that you should throw the whole feminist movement out the fucking window.
wow...
lets just go get drunk!!!
lets just go get drunk!!!
....Yeah, I was kind of in a bad mood when I wrote that.......I didn't mean for it to come out all nasty-like....
woohoo, like me!
Pandy, you could just stop trying to please everyone and just call everyone "skank" or "ho." Not sure how that would work out, calling the customers that at work, but dammit man! You're a grown boy, do what you want!
What's weird is that while I'm writing this, Stephen Colbert is talking about panda bears.
yes i know.... and i don't care. It would be adorable.
i guess its my own fault tho, i shoouldnt have worn shorts and heels HAHA