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I just want to say that Joe Lieberman makes me ashamed to be a Jew from Connecticut. Srsly.
nice to have you back, though?
Amy, thanks for your "report" about Al Sharpton- I really don't know much about him, but I agree with alot of that stuff, and he sounds pretty interesting (in a good way)
And I, personally, LOVE how you've gotten this debate really going, even if you had to play devil's advocate and sound like a staunch Hillary-supporter. It's been way more interesting than an Obama-love-fest, and it's really helped me to figure out where I stand on a lot of this stuff.
So thank you!
and Rachel, hahaha, I don't think Connecticut Jews need to take responsibility for Joe Lieberman- as far as I'm concerned, he's a freak accident and doesn't reflect badly on anyone but himself. (and whoever he endorses, I suppose.)
It's going weirdly. I made a list in the Random Stuff thread, and I'm too lazy to write it all out again.
I'm alright, but I have missed your witty banter.
TODAY IS WYOMING's TURN! ...So if you live in Wyoming, go vote! Please?
I don't know if I'd call it "witty banter" more than "hey, I'm just kind of awkward, but that's 'in' now, so awesome!"
I am very proud of John McCain. Once again, a crazy Neocon has gone nuts over Obama's name, but this time it was rep Steve King of Iowa. And once again, John McCain has distanced himself from the comments and disavowed him. Maybe we don't agree with McCain's policies, but he has truly shown himself to be a good man of integrity; I really think his little bomb Iran song was in a moment of senior silliness, and that at heart, he's a better person than we give him credit for. People have been saying the Republicans will play dirty, but it looks like only 1 person has been insulting, fear-mongering, lying, distorting and smearing: her name rhymes with "Bill." Yeah, Hill.
Because, well, if you want to say McCain's show of good will is calculated, compare him to Hillary. On 60 Minutes, she was asked if she believed Obama is a Muslim. She said "I'll take him on his word that he's not. As far as I know, he's not." Flip that around, and imagine Obama being asked if Hillary rapes babies- "I'll take it on her word that she doesn't rape babies. As far as I know, she doesn't rape babies." Clearly, her comment cast a certain degree of doubt on the statement that he isn't. And that's fear-mongering. She could have said, "No, he's not, and religion doesn't matter." But, nope, she didn't.
It's infuriating. Hillary is chin-deep in scandals and indictments (INDICTMENTS, not merely acting as a witness about a lawn) but Obama doesn't bring them up b/c he wants to stay clean and create a new culture of clean politics. But Hillary takes advantage of everything she can.
And that isn't even what gets me. What gets me is that she blatantly said the other day that John McCain has experience and is ready to be commander-in-chief, and that she has experience and is ready to be commander-in-chief but that Obama has only a speech and "you'll have to ask him" about his readiness.
And that means this: Hillary Clinton is the first person in the history of the United States to publically put the other party's candidate above her fellow party's contendor for the nomination. The first. In history. She has actually said McCain is more ready than my fellow Democrat. She's serious;y, actually put her party aside to get herself ahead. Joe Lieberman's case would be similar, but when he did that, he had already declared himself an independent. So yeah, she's the first in history.
Today on Meet the Press Tom Dashele said that what Hillary is doing will really hurt the party come November, when all the opposition has to do is quote Hillary saying McCain is better than Obama.
Btw, Nancy Pelosi just met with the Clinton camp and scolded them for the 3 AM commercial as fear-mongering. They ignored her. Ah, Nancy- I've been one of your biggest fans for 5 years now and every day you keep making me admire you more. This is the woman I'd be proud to have represent me: President Nancy Pelosi.
Peggy Noonan is a wonderful political writer. Plus she graduated from my college. And welcome back, cadallac!
Plus he's a pretty good basist. I would have loved to see an Obama / Huckabee race. I have a really bad feeling about McCain. The things I've read about him make him seem really unappealing. The whole business about his late ex wife is upsetting. I think he should teach military tactics or something. Now, I've never been in the military, but I know several people who have. My stepbrother is in Iraq right now, actually. But I know that during their training, they are desensitized to
the idea of killing another human being; they are taught not to care, so that they can kill more efficiently and without the natural emotional guilt that humans are meant to feel at causing the loss of another life. I don't want someone who has been conditioned not to care running our country. Military leaders don't always make good presidents.
Plus he's a pretty good basist. I would have loved to see an Obama / Huckabee race. I have a really bad feeling about McCain. The things I've read about him make him seem really unappealing. The whole business about his late ex wife is upsetting. I think he should teach military tactics or something. Now, I've never been in the military, but I know several people who have. My stepbrother is in Iraq right now, actually. But I know that during their training, they are desensitized to
the idea of killing another human being; they are taught not to care, so that they can kill more efficiently and without the natural emotional guilt that humans are meant to feel at causing the loss of another life. I don't want someone who has been conditioned not to care running our country. Military leaders don't always make good presidents.
Also, Tabatha, I hope you enjoy the book. It's good to be enformed.
...I had no idea OkGo fans were so politically active.
Joe Lieberman hasn't been a Democrat since he lost the VP bid. He is against separation of church and state (which, seeing as he claims to be a Jew, is seriously f-ed up), sides with the Bush administration at every possible turn, etc. He is a disgrace to all he claims to represent. THAT's why the Dems voted him out in the primary that year - because he had already put his party aside to get himself ahead long before the election or declaring himself to be an independent.
Also, another one of my heroes is off my list. Geraldine Ferraro has been my hero since I was 9 years old. I actually, at 9 years old, named my fish Geraldine Ferraro, in honor of her. It was a purple beta fish. Anyway, a few weeks ago she wrote an article about how the superdelagates are wiser than the rest of us and that's why they should pick the nominee. It was shockingly undemocratic but I know she supports Hillary (altho she hasn't really given a reason why) so I shrugged it off. But now she's said that Obama is only winning b/c he's black, and that I can't shrug off. That's just sick.
I need new heroes. No, I don't- I already have new ones. Nancy Pelosi, Damian Kulash, Rusty Ross, and Barack Obama.
Oh, the race game- he loves it. His campaign forwarded to reporters an article discussing Rev. Wright's speeches.
I'm so angry I don't even know what to call him, except hateful old man, hateful, hateful, hateful, wretched and cruel McCain.
Since when were we our pastor's keeper? Would anyone in their right minds associate Catholics with the child molestation of their priests? No, yet Obama somehow must answer for his priest's speeches. It's the message of God that is why we choose a church, not because of the guy who happens to upkeep the place.
And you know what? There's nothing Rev. Wright said that can't be understood in context. How can anyone deny that a black man is more likely to get stopped by a cop, that blacks have much higher rates of infant mortality and poverty, that life for a black man is usually much worse than for a white man in the same position. Are we going to deny that this nation has one of the most heinous, if not the absolute worst, racist history when it comes to skin pigment? That we continued slavery when even Europe disavowed it? I'm not saying we have to agree with Rev. Wright- but it's deplorable that instead of understanding it, people have the boldness to label it utterly in the wrong. You know what, America? The man has a point!
And Rev. Wright. Just what do you think you are doing? Are you intentionally trying to destroy this campaign? Was it really necessary to give this last hurrah? Your old speeches made would have gone away, but you inflamed everything by talking again. Why?To denigrate Hillary and focus on Obama's blackness? To say all of this when he's already under ridiculous scrutiny for patriotism, and when he's trying- he's trying so hard! - to transcend race and unify us? What is wrong with you?! Are you so self-absorbed that you had to say all of this now?
Aie. This is all too much for me. Plus I have 3 papers to write, one 4 pages, one 12 pages, and one 20 pages.
and they were talking about how McCain keeps firing/disowning/distancing himself from people in his campaign who are trying to smear-campaign Obama.
And it's really an ingenious plan on McCain's part-
the hateful, awful, miserable lies etc. still get out there to the public
but he gets to act all sanctimonious and have nothing to do with them.
so he wins no matter what.
also, though, I find it interesting that people in his campaign are focusing more on trying to hurt Obama than Clinton...
I think it's a fascinating idea.
Hillary didn't do much as first lady but the usual tea parties, after she failed to reform healthcare (this all wonderfully verified in the documents that were just released on court order after a judicial watch dog group went to bat). But Condoleeza Rice is, on the other hand, quite the accomplished, independent woman. I have to say, I've always really admired her. I hate, absolutely abhor, the things she does- ppl say Bush depends on Cheney and Rove and the old man set, but I think he definitely would have less clout if it weren't for Rice. She's smart. She's extremely smart. If you watch her being questioned, this woman can really think fast on her feet, and she dominates every dialog she's in. I hate the things she does but I have to admire how she does them. People say Obama speaks well, but Rice would be quite the debating master, and it would be interesting to see those two talk. Rice wouldn't cry to get votes, or appeal to a comedy show (like a certain someone): Rice is waaay too smart to need to do that.
I would never vote for a Rice and McCain team, but I think having her as a running mate would really transform this election. It would reach a whole new level of philosophical debate with her- it would be an intellectual election instead of a "omg, his pastor, omg the media is sexist" circus, which is tiring now. It would be an incredibly thought-provoking election. My dream team is Obama-Edwards and I would love to see a conversation by them with McCain-Rice.
Also, with Rice, the people who are voting based on gender would have to think about actual issues, and the people who are obsessed with race (ie Ferraro) would have to stop.
And why is it that when priests of the Catholic Church molest children, nobody blames Catholics but somehow Obama is here at fault for belonging to his church (which didn't do anything wrong in the first place, and neither did Wright)?
Sally, you know I think you're great, but don't you realize that your post just did the exact same thing? You're dismissing the party just because you don't like Hillary.
There is nothing worse than another 4 years of Republican Rule. McCain's policies are to "stay the course" and continue things as they have been in the Bush administration.