Oooo, ok, Bostonians say "car" and "park" with an English accent! Oooo I understand a little more now. It's just weird the way it switches. And then some other things are slightly New York-ish...
And we call a "U-ey" a U-turn or U-ey, but it's doing a U-ey, instead of banging one. And we have frappés, but they're less milky, I think.
Oh, I just thought of another English/American thing Fizzy/Soda
But that's still upper south. Gah. I'm trying to find deep south and Texan sadly, there are lots on youtube but they are all impressions...and I don't think impressions can get it right, first off and second, they're kind of insulting. But since I can't find any other, Texas http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy8IBNi6-68 But yeah, he sounds nowhere close to a native
some guy trying to sound intellectual, but honestly, he's HORRIBLE. I'm not even southern and I can say he sounds nowhere close http://youtube.com/watch?v=S3QFzBpvzzs
Aw. that's sad. I was actually hoping that someday maybe somebody would call me twee. And about that lyric- well, I thought he calls everybody dumb and it's kind of affectionate and his own gruff way of speaking. like in Whistle For the Chorus, he's def'ly in love and calling her stupid and silly is affectionate...I dunno, I guess I can relate because my sisters and I are always insulting each other but it means we're close...like how Damian and Dan and Tim were calling Andy all sorts of insulting names in that interview... So I thought that was happening too in "you look so dumb and you sound so twee." It's possible that I'm really messed up.
So, aw, that's really disappointing if it's not. I really was imagining a warm, fuzzy romance, teehee!
But that's still upper south. Gah. I'm trying to find deep south and Texan sadly, there are lots on youtube but they are all impressions...and I don't think impressions can get it right, first off and second, they're kind of insulting. But since I can't find any other, Texas http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy8IBNi6-68 But yeah, he sounds nowhere close to a native
some guy trying to sound intellectual, but honestly, he's HORRIBLE. I'm not even southern and I can say he sounds nowhere close http://youtube.com/watch?v=S3QFzBpvzzs
Aw. that's sad. I was actually hoping that someday maybe somebody would call me twee. And about that lyric- well, I thought he calls everybody dumb and it's kind of affectionate and his own gruff way of speaking. like in Whistle For the Chorus, he's def'ly in love and calling her stupid and silly is affectionate...I dunno, I guess I can relate because my sisters and I are always insulting each other but it means we're close...like how Damian and Dan and Tim were calling Andy all sorts of insulting names in that interview... So I thought that was happening too in "you look so dumb and you sound so twee." It's possible that I'm really messed up.
So, aw, that's really disappointing if it's not. I really was imagining a warm, fuzzy romance, teehee!
Things that I've learned with these videos: Southern accent: y'all Georgia accent: stoopid The guy in american idol with the North Carolina accent talks like he's singing...it's actually funny thouh i'm not (at all) an expert on english accents, but even I can see that the guy is not from Texas by the way he talks because he exagerates some parts and forgets about the others.
I was looking for a video of a portuguese trying to speak english but i didn't find any...maybe i'll post something later
Hahahah, that first "Texan" accent was pathetic. I could do better than that!
And i can understand all of those accents fine.. the North Carolina one's the hardest, but it's not that bad. Maybe it's coz in England, we're subjected to a lot of American TV - I guess you have a lot fewer Scots on American tv, so you don't hear the accent so much...
And as for twee - it's supposed to mean small and cute and "sugary" sweet, in a nice way. It can sometimes be taken as a negative thing, for example adults might describe kid's movies as "twee" in a negative way because they'd prefer something more mature, you know? It's not necessarily a bad thing, and I think it could definitely be used in a warm fuzzy romance. But it's not a very commonly used word, at least not anymore, and not in London.
One of the unique properties of Boston English is the frequency with which 'compound words' are formed. For example:
* "Mataheah" - a common salutation. * "Gidadaheah" - an expression of disbelief. * "Dijaduah?" - something you'd ask a male friend about his date last night.
HAHAHA I didn't get any of these at all when I read them, then I listened to the audio clip and they made perfect sense. Oh, Boston. ("I'm outta here", "Get outta here", and "Did you do her?" is what they mean...)
that "Boston Guy" clip on youtube is the most obnoxious sort of Boston accent- the loud, obnoxious, Italian guy Boston accent. I hate it. absolutely hate it.
the Medford City Councilor one was perfect. I don't mind that sort of accent, and the clip was hysterical.
I still hear 'dungarees', like they said from older people, but I never knew that was a Boston thing...
It's funny, the other part of the Boston accent is putting 'R's on the end of other words... such as 'Linder' for Linda, 'Canuhder' for Canada, etc. My vice-principal in middle school did that allll the time, but no one seems to remember that. Maybe cause it's a part of so many other accents, no one thinks about it? I dunno....
Aw. that's sad. I was actually hoping that someday maybe somebody would call me twee. And about that lyric- well, I thought he calls everybody dumb and it's kind of affectionate and his own gruff way of speaking. like in Whistle For the Chorus, he's def'ly in love and calling her stupid and silly is affectionate...I dunno, I guess I can relate because my sisters and I are always insulting each other but it means we're close...like how Damian and Dan and Tim were calling Andy all sorts of insulting names in that interview... So I thought that was happening too in "you look so dumb and you sound so twee." It's possible that I'm really messed up.
So, aw, that's really disappointing if it's not. I really was imagining a warm, fuzzy romance, teehee!
I mean......I could be totally, completely wrong. I've never heard the song before, so maybe I'm taking it completely out of context. Well, I am taking it out of context haha. And Alie's probably right.
I've just never really heard "twee" used in a super-positive manner. *shrugs*
I mean......I could be totally, completely wrong. I've never heard the song before, so maybe I'm taking it completely out of context. Well, I am taking it out of context haha. And Alie's probably right.
I've just never really heard "twee" used in a super-positive manner. *shrugs*
Actually, I was pondering this in the shower this morning (mainly because I was half-dead) and I have to agree - he doesn't mean it as a compliment.
Firstly, I'd like to apologize to Sally because I'm worried that this will ruin the song, and quite possibly The Fratellis in general, for her and so I'm putting this under a spoiler cut in case she doesn't want that. I think the song is about a prostitute (so, umm, don't think about it, Sal). Here's the context necessary:
Lay yourself down by the side of the bed Oh you naughty girl, you tickle me red. You look so dumb and you sound so twee, You can only wish that you were married to me.
Well that's what you get Oh don't get upset Ridiculous you When in the queue Oh Whoop-ee-doo. You could have been The best that I've seen Under the red light Everybody knows you cried last night.
He seems to be taunting her. That first lyrical bit I posted is clearly sexual in nature, no real discussion needed there. "You look so dumb and you sound so twee" - he is implying that she can't be taken seriously, because she looks unintelligent and talks like a little girl - "you can only wish that you were married to me" because that would "make her respectable".
And then "that's what you get" - he's kind of scolding her, you know, and then telling her that she's ridiculous for being upset. Kind of a "What did you think was going to happen?" sort of thing. Red lights are often used to refer to prostitutes. Think "Roxanne"? "You don't have to put on the red light"? So he's saying "You could've been the best prostitute I've ever seen, but you're too much of a wuss. Aren't you pathetic?" I could be wrong though.
aw, Racel, you're so nice! But you don't have to do that- nothing spoils anything for me. I don't even care if ppl reveal the endings of movies or books. And I'd rather know the truth, ya know?
And I think you're right. I think so because of two words: "red light." I have been completely ignoring those words- they didn't even register in my mind as meaningful. If they weren't there, the lyrics would def'ly be ambiguous and so susceptible to many interpretations, but with "red light" there, there really is only one right view.
But, I don't think that makes The Fratellis bad. I mean, content-wise, this song is against her as a prostitute, so in a broader sense it condemns the exploitation of women...It's kind of a picture of why girls should think twice before they sell themselves off. It's also possible that I'm really making a stretch here.
The thing about The Fratellis- I was kind of aghast at their use of women in their videos from the first time I saw them. But I had to forgive them, because they are just so indescribably good. They're brilliant musicians; they bring to the table a sound I've never heard in modern music before. Maybe it's part of their Scottish roots and I just never heard modern Scottish music before. But whatever the reason, they make such good music, that I can ignore anything else...Technically, that makes me a hypocrite.
all the songs on their album are about those kind of ladys, its the theme of the album
there was a really good article out there that i read about telling all of that stuff and junk, god knows if it was online or in a mag i read somewhere though, so your gonna have to take my word for it
This doesn't exactly fit the topic at all, but I'm going to pretend this thread is also about why the UK is awesome.
Here's Matt Kirshen- I had a crush on him until he decided to play to American humor, which is disgusting and not witty at all, for the most part- at least not how the comics on the show displayed it. I guess I shouldn't be whining about something from 3 months ago, but he was soooo much better than the American comedians until he decided to give up his brilliant British wit and make the same kind of stupid jokes as the American comedians on Last Comic.
See, that's brilliant. No American comedian would ever talk about homeopathic medicine- they're just not smart enough. And then sigh, he gave it all up.
I love a new British comedian now. Spencer Brown. Actually, I discovered him on the same show as Matt, but Spencer got knocked off early. They were both from the London gig. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAAskhhCyB0 As you can see there, the American judges don't understand Spencer's British slang/wording. "invalid carriage" "pensioner" "till" But he's soooo cute! And he's fuuuunny! And everybody needs, needs, needs to watch him do the "American practical joke" bit. Brilliant.
Sigh- one of these days, I need to go to London and marry a British man.
Ooooh yay, Sally! I'll watch in a mo, I'm listening to the CDs I got for xmas at the moment (Rufus, TMBG and McFly - Woo!!)
QUOTE (Tabetha @ Dec 25 2007, 03:35 PM)
"invalid carriage" "pensioner" "till"
I haven't a clue what an 'invalid carriage' is, maybe when I hear it in context it'll make sense.
Right, do you have pensions in the US? Just in case you don't, in Britain when you retire the government and/or your old employer gives you 'benefits' (i.e. money) on a weekly basis now that you're no longer employed. So a pensioner is one who receives a pension.
A till is a checkout/cash register (dunno what you call them over there) - you know, in the store, where you go to pay.
Hehe Sally I'll be on the lookout for British guys for you
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And we call a "U-ey" a U-turn or U-ey, but it's doing a U-ey, instead of banging one. And we have frappés, but they're less milky, I think.
Oh, I just thought of another English/American thing
Fizzy/Soda
Funny, Barry always referred to flavoured milk (you know, milk with Nesquick in it?) as a "milkshake," too. I always wanted to correct him.
here's a southern accent. I love Kim and Cube News.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1VdY0BXWwb0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kCrYzU4Wwug
here's a girl with a Georgia accent
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xMrQRx1aKGI&feature=related
a North Carolina accent...similar to Georgia
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3IZTn09s5T8
appearantly, they couldn't understand him, lol.
But that's still upper south. Gah.
I'm trying to find deep south and Texan
sadly, there are lots on youtube but they are all impressions...and I don't think impressions can get it right, first off and second, they're kind of insulting.
But since I can't find any other,
Texas
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy8IBNi6-68
But yeah, he sounds nowhere close to a native
some guy trying to sound intellectual, but honestly, he's HORRIBLE. I'm not even southern and I can say he sounds nowhere close
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S3QFzBpvzzs
Aw. that's sad. I was actually hoping that someday maybe somebody would call me twee.
And about that lyric- well, I thought he calls everybody dumb and it's kind of affectionate and his own gruff way of speaking. like in Whistle For the Chorus, he's def'ly in love and calling her stupid and silly is affectionate...I dunno, I guess I can relate because my sisters and I are always insulting each other but it means we're close...like how Damian and Dan and Tim were calling Andy all sorts of insulting names in that interview...
So I thought that was happening too in "you look so dumb and you sound so twee."
It's possible that I'm really messed up.
So, aw, that's really disappointing if it's not. I really was imagining a warm, fuzzy romance, teehee!
here's a southern accent. I love Kim and Cube News.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=1VdY0BXWwb0
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kCrYzU4Wwug
here's a girl with a Georgia accent
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xMrQRx1aKGI&feature=related
a North Carolina accent...similar to Georgia
http://youtube.com/watch?v=3IZTn09s5T8
appearantly, they couldn't understand him, lol.
But that's still upper south. Gah.
I'm trying to find deep south and Texan
sadly, there are lots on youtube but they are all impressions...and I don't think impressions can get it right, first off and second, they're kind of insulting.
But since I can't find any other,
Texas
http://youtube.com/watch?v=cy8IBNi6-68
But yeah, he sounds nowhere close to a native
some guy trying to sound intellectual, but honestly, he's HORRIBLE. I'm not even southern and I can say he sounds nowhere close
http://youtube.com/watch?v=S3QFzBpvzzs
Aw. that's sad. I was actually hoping that someday maybe somebody would call me twee.
And about that lyric- well, I thought he calls everybody dumb and it's kind of affectionate and his own gruff way of speaking. like in Whistle For the Chorus, he's def'ly in love and calling her stupid and silly is affectionate...I dunno, I guess I can relate because my sisters and I are always insulting each other but it means we're close...like how Damian and Dan and Tim were calling Andy all sorts of insulting names in that interview...
So I thought that was happening too in "you look so dumb and you sound so twee."
It's possible that I'm really messed up.
So, aw, that's really disappointing if it's not. I really was imagining a warm, fuzzy romance, teehee!
Things that I've learned with these videos:
Southern accent: y'all
Georgia accent: stoopid
The guy in american idol with the North Carolina accent talks like he's singing...it's actually funny
thouh i'm not (at all) an expert on english accents, but even I can see that the guy is not from Texas by the way he talks because he exagerates some parts and forgets about the others.
I was looking for a video of a portuguese trying to speak english but i didn't find any...maybe i'll post something later
And i can understand all of those accents fine.. the North Carolina one's the hardest, but it's not that bad. Maybe it's coz in England, we're subjected to a lot of American TV - I guess you have a lot fewer Scots on American tv, so you don't hear the accent so much...
And as for twee - it's supposed to mean small and cute and "sugary" sweet, in a nice way. It can sometimes be taken as a negative thing, for example adults might describe kid's movies as "twee" in a negative way because they'd prefer something more mature, you know? It's not necessarily a bad thing, and I think it could definitely be used in a warm fuzzy romance. But it's not a very commonly used word, at least not anymore, and not in London.
* "Mataheah" - a common salutation.
* "Gidadaheah" - an expression of disbelief.
* "Dijaduah?" - something you'd ask a male friend about his date last night.
HAHAHA I didn't get any of these at all when I read them, then I listened to the audio clip and they made perfect sense.
Oh, Boston.
("I'm outta here", "Get outta here", and "Did you do her?" is what they mean...)
that "Boston Guy" clip on youtube is the most obnoxious sort of Boston accent- the loud, obnoxious, Italian guy Boston accent. I hate it. absolutely hate it.
the Medford City Councilor one was perfect. I don't mind that sort of accent, and the clip was hysterical.
I still hear 'dungarees', like they said from older people, but I never knew that was a Boston thing...
It's funny, the other part of the Boston accent is putting 'R's on the end of other words... such as 'Linder' for Linda, 'Canuhder' for Canada, etc. My vice-principal in middle school did that allll the time, but no one seems to remember that. Maybe cause it's a part of so many other accents, no one thinks about it? I dunno....
And about that lyric- well, I thought he calls everybody dumb and it's kind of affectionate and his own gruff way of speaking. like in Whistle For the Chorus, he's def'ly in love and calling her stupid and silly is affectionate...I dunno, I guess I can relate because my sisters and I are always insulting each other but it means we're close...like how Damian and Dan and Tim were calling Andy all sorts of insulting names in that interview...
So I thought that was happening too in "you look so dumb and you sound so twee."
It's possible that I'm really messed up.
So, aw, that's really disappointing if it's not. I really was imagining a warm, fuzzy romance, teehee!
I mean......I could be totally, completely wrong. I've never heard the song before, so maybe I'm taking it completely out of context. Well, I am taking it out of context haha. And Alie's probably right.
I've just never really heard "twee" used in a super-positive manner. *shrugs*
I've just never really heard "twee" used in a super-positive manner. *shrugs*
Actually, I was pondering this in the shower this morning (mainly because I was half-dead) and I have to agree - he doesn't mean it as a compliment.
Firstly, I'd like to apologize to Sally because I'm worried that this will ruin the song, and quite possibly The Fratellis in general, for her and so I'm putting this under a spoiler cut in case she doesn't want that. I think the song is about a prostitute (so, umm, don't think about it, Sal). Here's the context necessary:
Lay yourself down by the side of the bed
Oh you naughty girl, you tickle me red.
You look so dumb and you sound so twee,
You can only wish that you were married to me.
Well that's what you get
Oh don't get upset
Ridiculous you
When in the queue
Oh Whoop-ee-doo.
You could have been
The best that I've seen
Under the red light
Everybody knows you cried last night.
He seems to be taunting her. That first lyrical bit I posted is clearly sexual in nature, no real discussion needed there. "You look so dumb and you sound so twee" - he is implying that she can't be taken seriously, because she looks unintelligent and talks like a little girl - "you can only wish that you were married to me" because that would "make her respectable".
And then "that's what you get" - he's kind of scolding her, you know, and then telling her that she's ridiculous for being upset. Kind of a "What did you think was going to happen?" sort of thing. Red lights are often used to refer to prostitutes. Think "Roxanne"? "You don't have to put on the red light"? So he's saying "You could've been the best prostitute I've ever seen, but you're too much of a wuss. Aren't you pathetic?"
I could be wrong though.
And I think you're right. I think so because of two words: "red light." I have been completely ignoring those words- they didn't even register in my mind as meaningful. If they weren't there, the lyrics would def'ly be ambiguous and so susceptible to many interpretations, but with "red light" there, there really is only one right view.
But, I don't think that makes The Fratellis bad. I mean, content-wise, this song is against her as a prostitute, so in a broader sense it condemns the exploitation of women...It's kind of a picture of why girls should think twice before they sell themselves off. It's also possible that I'm really making a stretch here.
The thing about The Fratellis- I was kind of aghast at their use of women in their videos from the first time I saw them. But I had to forgive them, because they are just so indescribably good. They're brilliant musicians; they bring to the table a sound I've never heard in modern music before. Maybe it's part of their Scottish roots and I just never heard modern Scottish music before. But whatever the reason, they make such good music, that I can ignore anything else...Technically, that makes me a hypocrite.
And so, I thank you for your analysis
And so, I thank you for your analysis
No dear, it makes you a music lover. There are a lot of things I can forgive if the music's good enough. You're quite welcome.
there was a really good article out there that i read about telling all of that stuff and junk, god knows if it was online or in a mag i read somewhere though, so your gonna have to take my word for it
Here's Matt Kirshen- I had a crush on him until he decided to play to American humor, which is disgusting and not witty at all, for the most part- at least not how the comics on the show displayed it. I guess I shouldn't be whining about something from 3 months ago, but he was soooo much better than the American comedians until he decided to give up his brilliant British wit and make the same kind of stupid jokes as the American comedians on Last Comic.
Anyway, lol, I'm posting this for Alice, b/c he's the one I mentioned to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntDn0gaS0cE
That was the set that started my crush.
Here's his homeopathic medicine bit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcedOwnDVBY
See, that's brilliant. No American comedian would ever talk about homeopathic medicine- they're just not smart enough. And then sigh, he gave it all up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAAskhhCyB0
As you can see there, the American judges don't understand Spencer's British slang/wording.
"invalid carriage"
"pensioner"
"till"
But he's soooo cute! And he's fuuuunny!
And everybody needs, needs, needs to watch him do the "American practical joke" bit. Brilliant.
Sigh- one of these days, I need to go to London and marry a British man.
PS:
Spencer rapping
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CWreq0hOJc
"pensioner"
"till"
I haven't a clue what an 'invalid carriage' is, maybe when I hear it in context it'll make sense.
Right, do you have pensions in the US? Just in case you don't, in Britain when you retire the government and/or your old employer gives you 'benefits' (i.e. money) on a weekly basis now that you're no longer employed. So a pensioner is one who receives a pension.
A till is a checkout/cash register (dunno what you call them over there) - you know, in the store, where you go to pay.
Hehe Sally I'll be on the lookout for British guys for you
My friend showed me this:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9IzDbNFDdP4
The "herb" part- hehe, I love it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjC3R6jOtUo and that too!
She said this guy's famous in Britain.
He has a lot of material!
Thanks!! Much appreciated
I have a question!
How do you properly use "row?"
I know it's used for like argument, but is it "I got into a row with him" or "I had a row with him" or... ?
Thanks in advance!
I know it's used for like argument, but is it "I got into a row with him" or "I had a row with him" or... ?
Thanks in advance!
I think I've used both. I tend to say "we had a big row."
I used it around one of my friends who had no fucking clue what it meant, and now he tries to drop it in each time we have a conversation.