Complaints Thread

DJRose

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Andy, (it's Andy right?) It takes two to argue.

You notice how I'm not arguing with Rose anymore? She stopped responding to me. See how easy that is?
Good job, Rose!!!!

Could you be any more patronizing? You think all I do all day is post on a message board? I have work to do. Yeah, it may not be rocket science, but it does require my attention sometimes, and getting worked up while writing a response to you was not in the cards this morning. Sorry about that.

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Yeah, I lost that argument. But that's not why I launched the attack. It had been building for weeks. That was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

Building for weeks? Where? In your head? It's certainly news to me.

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I'm sorry, it's just that I expected that level of arrogance out of a lawyer, I did not expect it out of a receptionist. It caught me off guard and amused me.

You're confusing arrogance with a refusal to stoop to personal attacks and cursing. You're not the first one. But personally, I think it's best to debate with facts and reason instead of resorting to name calling and emoticons. Some call that "Taking the High Road." If that makes me arrogant, then so be it.

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And if you really want to rehash the Christmas thing then fine. My complaint was that I don't have a loving family to spend Christmas with. Honestly I was offended that my abusive parents were compared to your Jewish angst. However, I didn't bring this up because as misguided as you were, I figured you probably meant well.

You're right on one front - I *did* mean well. But in my defense, you didn't say "Christmas makes me upset because I have abusive parents", you said "Christmas makes me upset because I have no family to go to", and for the record, I think both are perfectly valid reasons to want to opt out. I discussed my "Jewish Angst" as a means of saying that I understood, and that you weren't alone in the desire to opt out of the Christmas Cheer.

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But from the same conversation I was astounded with your "War on Christmas." You seem to demand respect for your religious beliefs, while not granting others the same respect. This from the same woman who proclaimed that she was annoyed when people took no interest in learning about religions other than their own. So one should learn about other people's religion, but not tolerate them? That's totally mature. Way to go.

Here's where you are the misguided one. Just like you say you do, I have no objection to other people wanting to celebrate Christmas, and I don't know where you got that idea. Suggesting different colors for the decorations in an office environment and asking to not receive Santa joke emails certainly does not equate to "NO YOU CAN'T CELEBRATE! TAKE THE TREE IN YOUR HOUSE DOWN!" I'm all for celebrations. I've been known to help friends with their own trees and celebrate Christmas with them in their houses, as well as invite friends over for Latkes. But, like you, I'd prefer it be kept to one month and not be shoved down the throats of those who don't choose to join in the celebration for whatever reason they have. I don't feel that you or I are asking for too much in that regard.

You have posted a lot on this board about your personal problems and your family history. I think you must be a very trusting individual to put that information on a public forum. But please do not think that you are the only person on here who has ever had an abusive family member. Some of us just don't choose to discuss that with strangers on the internet.

You can continue to think/say whatever you want about me. Please stop attacking my friends for standing up for me.

circlenepal20

Actually that first one was sincere. I thought you were being the "bigger man" and bowing out. I was seriously congratulating you for figuring that out. It really does take two to argue.

I'm not confusing anything, and no I didn't say "I have abusive parents" but I did say:

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Ok, I get that your family functions, that your family loves you, and your family is wonderful, and you know exactly what you will be doing for Christmas. Well some of us didn't get that blessing. Some of us get to choose wether we want to invite ourselves somewhere where we don't belong, impose on those people and feel really shitty about it, or spend it alone and feel really shitty about it.

I thought that pretty much covered it. I didn't care to go any further. You say I've posted a lot about my family history, like what? I think I've mentioned that my sister was mad at me, but I didn't say why. I didn't mention the abuse thing until today and already it's been thrown back in my face by two people. And people wonder why survivors hide that stuff. They tell us we shouldn't be ashamed, but now everything I say or do that someone doesn't like will be automatically be a result of that.

So you'll decorate a Christmas tree, but Santa jokes offend you? I really don't understand that. You were the one who said you were part of the "War on Christmas;" that sounds pretty damned intolerant to me.

DJRose

QUOTE (Wolf359 @ Nov 13 2007, 01:40 PM)

Actually that first one was sincere. I thought you were being the "bigger man" and bowing out. I was seriously congratulating you for figuring that out. It really does take two to argue.

It most certainly does, Wolf. It most certainly does. As far as I'm concerned, this argument has been pretty one-sided; you attacking me and me defending myself.

QUOTE (Wolf359 @ Nov 13 2007, 01:40 PM)

I thought that pretty much covered it. I didn't care to go any further. You say I've posted a lot about my family history, like what? I think I've mentioned that my sister was mad at me, but I didn't say why. I didn't mention the abuse thing until today and already it's been thrown back in my face by two people. And people wonder why survivors hide that stuff. They tell us we shouldn't be ashamed, but now everything I say or do that someone doesn't like will be automatically be a result of that.

I know about how your parents let you and your sister do drugs or whatever else you wanted, and how you're addicted to pot, and how you think pregnancy is the only thing that can quell that as far as you can see, and that was all within the first few weeks of reading your posts, in one thread. I'm not throwing your unfortunate past in your face, you said I was insensitive to your plight, and I most certainly am not. You shouldn't be ashamed, but don't act like no one on here understands or is sympathetic.

QUOTE (Wolf359 @ Nov 13 2007, 01:40 PM)

So you'll decorate a Christmas tree, but Santa jokes offend you? I really don't understand that. You were the one who said you were part of the "War on Christmas;" that sounds pretty damned intolerant to me.

I'm sorry you didn't recognize my sarcasm. I also said I was Evil in that same breath, and thought that would be enough to indicate the sarcasm. There is no "War on Christmas", yet I'm constantly accused of being a part of it simply for wishing to not be forced to participate. As for not wanting Christmas in my email inbox, well, that's my personal choice. I didn't say I was offended by them, I only asked to be excluded from the email list, and I don't see how that infringes on anyone else's celebration. I do enjoy being a part of my friends' lives though, and if that includes decorating trees, then so be it.

circlenepal20

Ok, yeah I forgot about that one other time i talked about my family. I also forgot about the part where I said no one on here understands or is sympathetic. Perhaps you could point that out to me. No, actually don't. Since you don't seem to get it I'll show you how this works.

Go ahead and have the last word if you feel the need to. Anything you want. But if you stop posting in the thread, it dies. See watch!

Are you watching???

agentnumone

DJRose is a wonderful person for sticking up for someone else and in so having to endure this.

These posts seem like attacks wolfy...

sorry i didn't let it die, just wanted to get a complaint in.

Courtneytastic

After countless boundary meetings, it's been decided that, although the rich snooty middle I went to has always gone to (and forever will match with [which isn't to say I match]) the rich snooty high school I currently go to, my neighborhood will have to go to the new hopefully-more-rich-and-more-snooty high school.

Traditionally, there was one high school and two middle schools. Each middle school was on each side of a freeway; the left side was the richer side and also was the side the high school both middle schools fed into. Now, despite the fact I live on the "richer" side, I'll have to go to the new school on the "less rich" side.

Great, just great. Another school to get used to...

tune1shade

Oh hay wow.

Correct me if I'm wrong Wolf, but it seems like you're already feeling a bit on edge about the holidays, in the sense that you feel a little out of control about what's going on. Could this be translating into a need to take control in places you can, such as on the internet? I've never seen you like this and it seems the only explanation.

I have to agree with the consensus here and say that Rose really hasn't done anything wrong. Somehow, a simple argument about DVDs has spiraled into a shitfest. How the hell did that happen?

walk2sock

Whoa, man. I don't really want to get caught up in this, but I would classify Wolf's posts as "attacks." Rachel did nothing to offend you, as far as I'm concerned, and neither did anyone else.

I came here to complain about something really trivial, but I forget what it was after reading all of that. (Is there a *nervous laugh* emoticon?)

doctor5cap

ooook...

Tempe! What happened with that school letter? did it get worked out in the end?

QUOTE (Courtneytastic @ Nov 13 2007, 06:26 PM)

Great, just great. Another school to get used to...

dont worry, youll prob like the less rich rich kids better


good luck courtney

Courtneytastic

QUOTE (Felster @ Nov 14 2007, 10:26 AM)

dont worry, youll prob like the less rich rich kids better


good luck courtney

I hope so, but all my friends are from the middle school I went to, MOST of which is zoned to go to the same not new school.

I don't want to hang with those kids, and for some reason, not because of "less richness" because I probably am less rich than they are, I look down on kids from that school. Weird.

Anyway, my friend says she might let me fake her mom as my legal guardian so I can still go to the same school I'm going to now...exciting! Deception....

tune1shade

Yeah it could suck, but maybe you'll find out that you like it more.
Sometimes it's good to be put in situations you don't want to be in. You have to figure new things out and you're usually better of because of it.

Courtneytastic

Haha, that's a good point!
I hope so...

And it does look really pretty up high like that on that hill...

Surfer Rosa

I've just seen the movie Lions for Lambs and I thought it was very good. I liked the performances (even Tom Cruise's, which isn't normal in me) and the questions it rises about american politics regarding international affairs, so I looked it up on the net and it seems everybody thinks that movie sucked...could it be possible that I have such bad taste?

Rosa

Surfer Rosa

I shouldn't be logged on but studying; I'm addicted to this...

KristaMichelle

-Not being able to rent The Office because Blockbuster is stupid

women60banana

The last episode of The Office is tonight. -.-

manx9shrine

NOOOOOOOO

thephantommilk

all I have to say is that the argument/attack/antagonistic feelings are really upsetting.
I haven't read all of them, I don't know what the situation is
but I come to this forum specifically because we don't fight, and when we do, it's really disappointing.

anyways

this isn't really a complaint, it prolly fits in the sad thread better, but my chem teacher has lung cancer. they just told us today.
He's a really nice guy... so that's pretty sad.

okraparrot5

^^
yeah, i don't like any of the fighting either. we'll turn into the imb soon!

aww, and i'm sorry about your teacher. cancer is spreading like crazy! it's really sad

- i have a GIANT english test tomorrow
- i got a c on a project because of my group and it brought down my grade

target35ghost

My friend borrowed my Oyster card (it's a London transport card to get free bus travel and discounted subway travel because I'm still in education), and it got confiscated by an inspector who asked to see it when he saw that the photo was of a red headed girl instead of a black haired boy. This NEVER happens, it's so unlucky.

My friend pleaded with him to give it back, pretending I was his girlfriend (dunno how he thought that would help...) but they've taken it. So I'm left Oyster-less.

This is going to cost me a fortune in travel. Buses cost £2 ($4), no matter how short the journey. And I get the bus to and from school most days. Oy.